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Thich Nhat Hanh on Terrorism and Compassion


This past Sunday, Krista Tippett of the public radio program, On Being, rebroadcast her interview with the Vietnamese Buddhist monk in exile, Thich Nhat Hanh, at a retreat in the United States about. ten years ago. Much of what he had to say is still relevant. Here is an excerpt from the transcript. You can find more on the web  of this particular program here.

In the transcript, Thich Nhat Hanh is referred to as “Brother Thay.”

Ms. Tippett: Some of the things you’ve said about the war on terror, you used the word “forgiveness” right away, and I don’t think that was a word that was anywhere in our public discourse in this country. But I also heard you this morning, when you were speaking with the group, talking about the responsibility of everyone also for policies, global policies. Say some more about that, about what role individuals have to play even in something like the war on terror, from your perspective.

Brother Thây: The individual has to wake up to the fact that violence cannot end violence, that only understanding and compassion can neutralize violence because, with the practice of loving speech and compassionate listening, you can begin to understand people and help people to remove the wrong perceptions in them because these wrong perceptions are at the foundation of their anger, their fear, their violence, their hate. And listen deeply. You might be able to remove the wrong perception you have within yourself concerning you and concerning them. So the basic practice in order to remove terrorism and war is the practice of removing wrong perceptions, and that cannot be done with the bombs and the guns. And it is very important that our political leaders realize that and apply the techniques of communication.

We live in a time when we have a very sophisticated means for communication, but communication has become very difficult between individuals and groups of people. A father cannot talk to a son, mother cannot talk to a daughter, and maybe husband cannot talk to a wife. And Israelis cannot talk to Palestinians, and Hindus cannot talk to Muslims. And that is why we have war, we have violence. That is why restoring communication is the basic work for peace, and our political and our spiritual leaders have to focus all their energy on this matter.

Ms. Tippett: But I think some would say — people in positions of power would say that they simply can’t wait for that communication to happen or for that change to take place, that they also have to act now.

Brother Thây: If they cannot communicate with themselves, if they cannot communicate with members of their family, if they cannot communicate with people in their own country, they have no understanding that will serve as a base for right action, and they will make a lot of mistakes.

Ms. Tippett: I’m wondering if, you know, by way of bringing this back to you and the practice and how you know the practice, if you would read this poem, “For Warmth,” and talk about how you think about anger and how one lives with anger. Being mindful doesn’t take away all these emotions. Right? These human emotions.

Brother Thây: Well, we have to remain human, you know, in order to be able to understand and to be compassionate. You have the right to be angry, but you don’t have the right not to practice in order to transform your anger. You have the right to make mistakes, but you don’t have the right to continue making mistakes. You have to learn from the mistakes.

Ms. Tippett: Mm-hmm. And would you say something about when you — the occasion on which you wrote this poem also?

Brother Thây: I wrote this poem after I hear the news that the city of Ben Tre was bombed, and an American army officer declared that he had to destroy the town in order to save the town. It was so very shocking for us. In fact, there were a number of guerillas who came to the town, and we use anti-aircraft gun to shoot, and, because of that, they bombarded the town and killed so many civilians.

Ms. Tippett: Was it 1965 or something like that?

Brother Thây: Yeah, around that time.

Ms. Tippett: OK.

Brother Thây: [speaking Vietnamese]

Ms. Tippett: [translating]) “I hold my face between my hands. No, I am not crying. I hold my face between my hands to keep my loneliness warm, two hands protecting, two hands nourishing, two hands to prevent my soul from leaving me in anger.”

Brother Thây: When you notice that anger is coming up in you, you have to practice mindful breathing in order to generate the energy of mindfulness, in order to recognize your anger and embrace it tenderly, so that you can bring relief into you and not to act and to say things that can destroy, that can be destructive. And doing so, you can look deeply into the nature of the anger and know where it has come from. That practice help us to realize that not only Vietnamese civilians and military were victims of the war, but also American men and women who came to Vietnam to kill and to be killed were also victims of the war.


Ms. Tippett: So here’s the question that occurs to me again and again. These root causes are so simple in a way — wrong perception…

Brother Thây: Yes.

Ms. Tippett: …poor communication…

Brother Thây: Yes.

Ms. Tippett: …anger that may have its place in human life but then needs to be acted on mindfully, in your language. Why is it so hard for human beings — and I think this is as true in a family as it is in global politics mdash; to take these simple things seriously, these simple aspects of being human?

Brother Thây: I don’t think it is difficult. In the many retreats that we offer in Europe, in America, in many other countries, awakening, understanding, compassion and reconciliation can take place after a few days of practice. People need an opportunity so that the seed of compassion, understanding in them to be watered, and that is why we are not discouraged. We know that if there are more people joining in the work of offering that opportunity, then there will be a collective awakening.

Ms. Tippett: I look at you and I also see that you view the world through the eyes of compassion, which is another term you use, and that I see the weight of that on you. It is also a burden to look at the world straight and to see suffering and to see the sources of suffering wherever you look.

Brother Thây: When you have compassion in your heart, you suffer much less, and you are in a situation to be and to do something to help others to suffer less. This is true. So to practice in such a way that brings compassion into your heart is very important. A person without compassion cannot be a happy person. And compassion is something that is possible only when you have understanding. Understanding brings compassion. Understanding is compassion itself. When you understand the difficulties, the suffering, the despair of the other person, you don’t hate him, you don’t hate her anymore.

Ms. Tippett: What would compassion look like towards a terrorist, let’s say?

Brother Thây: The terrorists, they are victims of their wrong perceptions. They have wrong perceptions on themselves, and they have wrong perceptions of us. So the practice of communication, peaceful communication, can help them to remove their wrong perceptions on them and on us and the wrong perceptions we have on us and on them. This is the basic practice. This is the principle. And I hope that our political leaders understand this and take action right away to help us. And we, as citizens, we have to voice our concern very strongly because we should support our political leaders because we have help elect them. We should not leave everything to them. We should live out daily in such a way that we could have the time and energy in order to bring our light, our support to our political leaders. We should not hate our leaders. We should not be angry at our leaders. We should only support them and help them to see right in order to act right.

Ms. Tippett: I want to finish because I know I’ve taken a lot of your time. I want to ask you, this is from Fragrant Palm Leaves, which I know is a journal you wrote in the 1960s, but this is about Zen: “Zen is not merely a system of thought. Zen infuses our whole being with the most pressing question we have.” What are your pressing questions at this point in your life?

Brother Thây: Pressing questions?

Ms. Tippett: Mm-hmm. What are the questions you work through in your practice just personally, I wonder.

Brother Thây: I do not have any questions right now. My practice is to live in the here and the now. And it is a great happiness for you to be able to live and to do what you like to live and to do. My practice is centered in the present moment. I know that if you know how to handle the present moment right, with our best, and then that is about everything you can do for the future. That is why I’m at peace with myself. That’s my practice every day, and that is very nourishing.

Ms. Tippett: And I wonder, living that way and practicing that way, does forgiveness become instinctive? Does there become a point where you no longer react with anger but immediately become compassionate and forgiving?

Brother Thây: When you practice looking at people with the eyes of compassion, that kind of practice will become a good habit. And you are capable of looking at the people in such a way that you can see the suffering, the difficulties. And if you can see, then compassion will naturally flow from your heart. It’s for your sake, and that is for their sake also. In The Lotus Sutra, there is a wonderful, five-word sentence. “Looking at living beings with the eyes of compassion,” and that brings you happiness, that brings relief into the world, and this practice can be done by every one of us.

I Declare World Peace.


The Butterfly’s Wings

Pres. Obama & Sec. of State Clinton at transfer of remains ceremony for Benghazi attack

If we are neutral in situations of injustice,we have chosen the side of the oppressor (Desmond Tutu)

This quote was tweeted recently by Karen Armstrong. I am not sure if it applies directly to the recent spate of Muslim anti-American protests, some of them extremely violent. across the Muslim world, but I do  feel I should speak out.

I do denounce the violence and the deaths, all of them, associated with the protests. I denounce the video itself and the sentiments expressed therein. I also denounce some of the actions and policies of my own government that may have led to the protests.

What I have noticed is that one small action by an obscure group of individuals, especially one man, in one part of the world can cause havoc in many parts of the world. This seems to me to be associated with the butterfly effect, a term derived from chaos theory. Dictionary.com defines the butterfly effect as “a cumulatively large effect that a very small natural force may produce over a period of time.”

I am reminded of Thich Nhat Hanh’s coined term, interbeing. Wiktionary.org defines interbeing as “A state of connectedness and interdependence of all phenomena.” Thich Nhat Hanh says that we all “inter-are.”

I am sure that the man behind the video film trailer, Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, did not have the butterfly effect or interbeing in mind when he made the film.

We are living in a time of interconnectedness. This has always been so, but is especially pronounced and prominent in our time of globalization and instant communication with the internet.

If compassion with the practice of the Golden Rule is ever needed it is now. Thich Nhat Hanh also teaches about mindfulness: about living in the present moment, about awareness. Mindfulness is also very needed now. We all must be vigilant. We all need to practice compassion, the Golden Rule, and mindfulness. We all also need to speak out and up for these things. Remember the butterfly’s wings.

I Declare World Peace.


Besides the Links above, see also ~


Anti-U.S. outrage over video began with Christian activist’s phone call to a reporter by Nancy A. Youssef and Amina Ismail, McClatchy Newspapers

From Rushdie to Stevens: This Madness Must Stop by Dr. Usama Hasan of the Quilliam Foundation, at the Huffington Post

Cultural Clash Fuels Muslims Angry at Online Video by David D. Kirkpatrick at the New York Times


In my next post, I have More on The Butterfly’s Wings.

Wealth, War, and Religion

In our economic downturn and in this election season, there has been a focus on wealth and the lack thereof. There has also been a focus on selfishness and greed, especially with the philosophy of atheist Ayn Rand being in play. On Monday, August 27, The Washington Post published an Associated Press article concerning a new poll by the Pew Research Center citing most Americans disapprove of the wide income gap between the rich and poor and believe that the rich don’t pay enough taxes.  All this has made me think about religion.

I found that Wikipedia has a page entitled, Christian views on poverty and wealth.  That page says, “John Cobb, Jr. argues that the ‘economism that rules the West and through it much of the East’ is directly opposed to traditional Christian doctrine.” In the 1990’s, I became familiar with  what was called, the Prosperity Gospel. The Rev. Chuck Queen of my fair town, has a rather recent blog post at the opposite end, saying that less is more.

This summer, I reread from Hinduism the BHAGAVAD GITA: A New English Translation by Stephen Mitchell. I especially noted Chapter 16: Divine Traits and Demonic Traits. I quote from there:


Fearlessness, purity of heart,  persistence in the yoga of knowledge, generosity, self-control, nonviolence, gentleness, candor,

integrity, disengagement, joy in the study of scriptures, compassion for all beings, modesty, patience, a tranquil mind,

“Today I got this desire, and tomorrow I will get that one; all these riches are mine, and soon I will have even more.

“Already I have killed these enemies, and soon I will kill the rest; I am the lord, the enjoyer, successful, happy, and strong.

“noble, and rich, and famous. Who on earth is my equal? I will worship, give alms, and rejoice.” Thus think these ignorant fools.

Bewildered by endless thinking, entangled in the net of delusion, addicted to desire, they plunge into the foulest of hells.

Self-centered, stubborn, filled with the insolence of wealth, they go through the outward forms of worship, but their hearts are elsewhere.

Clinging to the I-sense, to power, to arrogance, lust, and rage, they hate me, denying my presence in their own and in others’ bodies.

This is the soul-destroying threefold entrance to hell: desire, anger, and greed. Every man should avoid them.

The man who refuses to enter these three gates into darkness does what is best for himself and attains the goal.

I recently finished reading from the Zen Buddhist tradition, Good Citizens: Creating Enlightened Society by Thich Nhat Hanh. The book by the Vietnamese-exiled monk elaborates on the Four Noble Truths and the Noble Eightfold Path of the Buddha. Toward the end of the book, Thay, as he is called, gives an updated version of his Five Mindfulness Trainings. Since they relate especially to this discussion, I give the first two here:

Reverence For Life

Aware of the suffering caused by the destruction of life, I am committed to cultivating the insight of interbeing and compassion and learning ways to protect the lives of people, animals, plants, and minerals. I am determined not to kill, not to let others kill, and not to support any act of killing in the world, in my thinking, or in my way of life. Seeing that harmful actions arise from anger, fear, greed, and intolerance, which in turn come from dualistic and discriminative thinking, I will cultivate openness, non-discrimination, and non-attachment to views in order to transform violence, fanaticism, and dogmatism in myself and in the world.

True Happiness

Aware of the suffering caused by exploitation, social injustice, stealing, and oppression, I am committed to practicing generosity in my thinking, speaking, and acting. I am determined not to steal and not to possess anything that should belong to others; and I will share my time, energy, and material resources with those who are in need. I will practice looking deeply to see that the happiness and suffering of others are not separate from my own happiness and suffering; that true happiness is not possible without understanding and compassion; and that running after wealth, fame, power and sensual pleasures can bring much suffering and despair. I am aware that happiness depends on my mental attitude and not on external conditions, and that I can live happily in the present moment simply by remembering that I already have more than enough conditions to be happy. I am committed to practicing Right Livelihood so that I can help reduce the suffering of living beings on Earth and reverse the process of global warming.

For the sake of our country and for the sake of the world, please consider these things.

I Declare World Peace.